Crazy Idea

MrSmiley

Well, looky here every once and awhile someone get's a crazy idea. Heh, Well let's see if we can get a responce here. I am an advid programmer still in his developing stage with very little idea on how to program large skill projects. Well I'm going to try to start one now, My 2 passions are A) In developing items in Operating Systems (running on the i386 structure)and Artifical Intellegence... Well I have decided to intertwine my two passions together, crazy eh? I don't know where I should post this so I'm going to post it in multiple forums. Anyways I need a team of people who would be wanting to work on this, I'm think the skelton for the OS will be FreeBSD And the idea of the AI is to make it self sufficent to say. Too decide if you made a correct choice or not. To grow with the user. To help the user in programming. To learn like a human. To be able to repair itself if must be. To naitively pull high numbers from "The Great Gig in the Sky". Just I like the idea of an operating system to be unique in development.

Here's a good term for the idea a computer that can self develop and update itself with no silly downloading just when it finds a vunerabillity in it's self it fixes it. The ultimate hacker proof computer. Now, everyone can see the flaws in a computer like that, it'll ban root right off and downloading. We can make anything follow a set of laws. We'll just give it rules that it can not by pass.

weapon__x

: Well, looky here every once and awhile someone get's a crazy idea. Heh, Well let's see if we can get a responce here. I am an advid programmer still in his developing stage with very little idea on how to program large skill projects. Well I'm going to try to start one now, My 2 passions are A) In developing items in Operating Systems (running on the i386 structure)and Artifical Intellegence... Well I have decided to intertwine my two passions together, crazy eh? I don't know where I should post this so I'm going to post it in multiple forums. Anyways I need a team of people who would be wanting to work on this, I'm think the skelton for the OS will be FreeBSD And the idea of the AI is to make it self sufficent to say. Too decide if you made a correct choice or not. To grow with the user. To help the user in programming. To learn like a human. To be able to repair itself if must be. To naitively pull high numbers from "The Great Gig in the Sky". Just I like the idea of an operating system to be unique in development.
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: Here's a good term for the idea a computer that can self develop and update itself with no silly downloading just when it finds a vunerabillity in it's self it fixes it. The ultimate hacker proof computer. Now, everyone can see the flaws in a computer like that, it'll ban root right off and downloading. We can make anything follow a set of laws. We'll just give it rules that it can not by pass.
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hello there crazy man..

i was just having some thoughts... have you ever came across of a very small *nix/BSD like OS that should fit in a 3.5FD like DOS? or would fit in a 800mb HDD? with all the basic accessories like wordprocessors/spreadsheet/simple graphics like windows3.0?

it has some connection with your idea; but im still toying with the idea on my head, i just want to be sure first if its feasible.

gautam

: i was just having some thoughts... have you ever came across of a very small *nix/BSD like OS that should fit in a 3.5FD like DOS? or would fit in a 800mb HDD? with all the basic accessories like wordprocessors/spreadsheet/simple graphics like windows3.0?
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Hi,

Most nix/BSD can fit into a 800mb hdd if you install only necessary applications. There are many word processors/spreadsheet apps for nix/BSD. Just go down to freshmeat or sourceforge and search around and you will find something.

bluj91

: : i was just having some thoughts... have you ever came across of a very small *nix/BSD like OS that should fit in a 3.5FD like DOS? or would fit in a 800mb HDD? with all the basic accessories like wordprocessors/spreadsheet/simple graphics like windows3.0?
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Any idea as how to make such a thing?, no one in the world has ever made a viable A.I.

archwndas

Hello crazy man. I think you watch a lot of movies. Maybe Terminator 2 and 3? How old are you by the way. If you want people to take you seriously then they should know to whom they are talking to.

Your idea is not that crazy. In fact, Solaris 10 has implemented some of your ambitious self-healing and self-learning mechanisms. However, although the filesystem of Solaris (I am referring to the new one) ZFS, has more than 40 patents related to its development Solaris 10 is far away of being a trustworthy platform for everyday development. It has bad compatibility with Laptops and wireless drivers. Bad compatibility with NVIDIA. Parallel performance in Multicore systems is worse than Linux. I have tested that with my own codes. Now take into account the people working on Solaris their number and the effort and the years.

You will change your mind.

If you want to work on something nice, take a look here:
www.menuetos.net

It is a new OS for 64bit and 32bit systems written entirely in Assembly. It is less or about 2 MB and includes too many applications. It is by far the best idea I have came across lately and it keeps evolving. What is missing from there to help it become a widespread is compatibility with the GNU compilers. If you want start working on that.

codyBane

There have been some self learning robotics labs that have been working on a robot named Cog for a long time now. I'm not sure what state it's development is at. In the early stages it was just a head two simple camera's and they had to "train it" to follow a light.

If you really want to learn about this stuff, go to MIT. http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/cog/current-projects.html

I remember another where the robot did have the code to learn to walk, but the creators would spend 6-7 hours at a time helping 'teach' the robot to walk while it learned and adapted slowly like a child. Unfortunately at the time hard drive sizes were much smaller and the amount of data the robot learned in order to walk was so much that they didn't have storage for it and the robot would "forget" everything when they turned it off and they would have to train the robot from scratch the next time. This was 5-10 years ago so things have likely advanced quite a bit since then.

In terms of doing this with an operating system or a watchdog program that runs beside the operating system as a user and is allowed to make changes to it... well, that's a big task to get a program to understand the context of it's safety and the consequences of it's choices.

Personally I would start with game AI and pathfinding AI. And with getting your programs to make decisions based on weighing several educated assumptions as opposed to specific facts and static rule based decision making. You'll want to read up on Fuzzy Logic. To over simplify it, it's how to get a binary system that only understands yes and no to understand a 'maybe' or to get the computer to take an educated guess.
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