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im new in the market of website dev for cash, how can i get people to look at me as an option. get them to goto my site. http://undergroundprogrammer.cjb.net

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  • : im new in the market of website dev for cash, how can i get people to look at me as an option. get them to goto my site. http://undergroundprogrammer.cjb.net
    :

    I checked out your site, here are a few comments:

    If your site depends on images to convey a message, always make sure
    that you communicate the information in another way, to insure that
    users who are unable to view the images can still access the content.

    Try viewing your page with "load images" disabled in your browser,
    and then tell me if you would buy anything from your own site?

    Keep your pages small and fast - if my page loads in fifteen seconds,
    and your page loads in sixty seconds, that means that visitors who
    open both URL's from a search engine at the same time will have
    forty-five seconds to buy from me before they ever look at your page!

    Avoid using meta keywords that are not relevant to your content -
    you will not pick up any business by trying to "trick" people
    into visiting your site, and modern search engines will sometimes
    black list pages with "hot" keywords and unrelated content.

    For more info on search engines, see:
    http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/
  • : : im new in the market of website dev for cash, how can i get people to look at me as an option. get them to goto my site. http://undergroundprogrammer.cjb.net
    : :
    :
    : I checked out your site, here are a few comments:
    :
    : If your site depends on images to convey a message, always make sure
    : that you communicate the information in another way, to insure that
    : users who are unable to view the images can still access the content.
    :
    : Try viewing your page with "load images" disabled in your browser,
    : and then tell me if you would buy anything from your own site?
    :
    : Keep your pages small and fast - if my page loads in fifteen seconds,
    : and your page loads in sixty seconds, that means that visitors who
    : open both URL's from a search engine at the same time will have
    : forty-five seconds to buy from me before they ever look at your page!
    :
    : Avoid using meta keywords that are not relevant to your content -
    : you will not pick up any business by trying to "trick" people
    : into visiting your site, and modern search engines will sometimes
    : black list pages with "hot" keywords and unrelated content.
    :
    : For more info on search engines, see:
    : http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/
    :

    Why should he/she turn the load images off? that seem a little moronic if you ask me. These days everyone using a computer on the internet can view images. If they have their images disabled, than they are just morons aswell.
    Thanks, PrincessNerdy

  • : im new in the market of website dev for cash, how can i get people to look at me as an option. get them to goto my site. http://undergroundprogrammer.cjb.net
    :
    Your website needs to stand out a little more. Being a webdesigner these days is very competitive, you have 13 years old even running up against you that are extremely good. I suggest you continue practicing with your website, than maybe consider payed marketing.
    Thanks, PrincessNerdy

  • : Why should he/she turn the load images off? that seem a little moronic if you ask me. These days everyone using a computer on the internet can view images. If they have their images disabled, than they are just morons aswell.

    Before you resort to name-calling, perhaps you should do some research on your "morons" :

    http://www.w3.org/WAI/

    http://www.lighthouse.org/advocacy_access.htm

    http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/about.jsp

    http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
  • : : Why should he/she turn the load images off? that seem a little moronic if you ask me. These days everyone using a computer on the internet can view images. If they have their images disabled, than they are just morons aswell.
    :
    : Before you resort to name-calling, perhaps you should do some research on your "morons" :
    :
    : http://www.w3.org/WAI/
    :
    : http://www.lighthouse.org/advocacy_access.htm
    :
    : http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/about.jsp
    :
    : http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
    :
    As we can see those sites suck. You don't see universal making websites without images do you...
    Thanks, PrincessNerdy

  • : : : Why should he/she turn the load images off? that seem a little moronic if you ask me. These days everyone using a computer on the internet can view images. If they have their images disabled, than they are just morons aswell.
    : :
    : : Before you resort to name-calling, perhaps you should do some research on your "morons" :
    : :
    : : http://www.w3.org/WAI/
    : : http://www.lighthouse.org/advocacy_access.htm
    : : http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/about.jsp
    : : http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
    : :
    : As we can see those sites suck.

    The w3.org membership list includes:
    Microsoft, Sun, Apple, IBM, HP, AOL, AT&T, VeriSign, Cisco, Macromedia, and Autodesk.
    ( Just to name a few. )
    Apparently not everyone thinks their website sucks?
    See the full list at:
    http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List
  • : : : : Why should he/she turn the load images off? that seem a little moronic if you ask me. These days everyone using a computer on the internet can view images. If they have their images disabled, than they are just morons aswell.
    : : :
    : : : Before you resort to name-calling, perhaps you should do some research on your "morons" :
    : : :
    : : : http://www.w3.org/WAI/
    : : : http://www.lighthouse.org/advocacy_access.htm
    : : : http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/about.jsp
    : : : http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
    : : :
    : : As we can see those sites suck.
    :
    : The w3.org membership list includes:
    : Microsoft, Sun, Apple, IBM, HP, AOL, AT&T, VeriSign, Cisco, Macromedia, and Autodesk.
    : ( Just to name a few. )
    : Apparently not everyone thinks their website sucks?
    : See the full list at:
    : http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List
    :
    That site for one isn't classified as a "site design"

    you have no valid points... be gone!
    Thanks, PrincessNerdy

  • : : : : : Why should he/she turn the load images off? that seem a little moronic if you ask me. These days everyone using a computer on the internet can view images. If they have their images disabled, than they are just morons aswell.
    : : : :
    : : : : Before you resort to name-calling, perhaps you should do some research on your "morons" :
    : : : :
    : : : : http://www.w3.org/WAI/
    : : : : http://www.lighthouse.org/advocacy_access.htm
    : : : : http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/about.jsp
    : : : : http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
    : : : :
    : : : As we can see those sites suck.
    : :
    : : The w3.org membership list includes:
    : : Microsoft, Sun, Apple, IBM, HP, AOL, AT&T, VeriSign, Cisco, Macromedia, and Autodesk.
    : : ( Just to name a few. )
    : : Apparently not everyone thinks their website sucks?
    : : See the full list at:
    : : http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List
    : :
    : That site for one isn't classified as a "site design"
    :
    : you have no valid points... be gone!
    : Thanks, PrincessNerdy
    :
    :

    I think you're missing Jeff's point, the idea is that the internet should be accessible to _everybody_, including people who are visually impared/dissabled (or "morons" as you so eloquently put it ;-)). These people rely on programs that magnify text or analyse and read the page out loud. Well, most web-images don't magnify well and certainly won't be easy for programs to read out loud. You should at least supply ALT information with your images but the best thing is to use plain text to give the information. So that is why putting your text in images is a bad idea.

    Granted, visually impared people would have little use for a web-designer but it _is_ something a web-designer should be aware of.

    Also, Linux/Unix users running Lynx won't be to happy with the site either ;-)
  • : : im new in the market of website dev for cash, how can i get people to look at me as an option. get them to goto my site. http://undergroundprogrammer.cjb.net
    : :
    :
    : I checked out your site, here are a few comments:
    :
    : If your site depends on images to convey a message, always make sure
    : that you communicate the information in another way, to insure that
    : users who are unable to view the images can still access the content.
    :
    : Try viewing your page with "load images" disabled in your browser,
    : and then tell me if you would buy anything from your own site?
    :
    : Keep your pages small and fast - if my page loads in fifteen seconds,
    : and your page loads in sixty seconds, that means that visitors who
    : open both URL's from a search engine at the same time will have
    : forty-five seconds to buy from me before they ever look at your page!
    :
    : Avoid using meta keywords that are not relevant to your content -
    : you will not pick up any business by trying to "trick" people
    : into visiting your site, and modern search engines will sometimes
    : black list pages with "hot" keywords and unrelated content.
    :
    : For more info on search engines, see:
    : http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/
    :
    In addition to the above, you should _still_ check multiple browsers/platforms. I could only get the page to work properly in IE on Windows and Mac and Mozilla on Windows. Older Netscape (4.x) browsers on both platforms popped up new windows, rather than using the frame. As Jeff P. also said, trying it with images off does give you at least a sense of what someone using a text-reader, non-graphical browser, or even a wireless PDA may encounter.


  • : you have no valid points... be gone!
    : Thanks, PrincessNerdy
    :
    :
    "Princess"
    You have an interesting perspective on the world. If I had to guess, I would say that:
    1> When you design a site, you design only for IE, because only a "moron" would use anything else.
    2> You make extensive use of graphics (obviously), because everyone with any brains has a broadband connection and anyone that doesn't isn't worth wasting time on (they're morons).
    3> You probably use the "This site best viewed with IE at 1024 x 768" message on your pages, because you expect everyone to adapt to the way you want to design the page, rather than adapt your page to the way people want to view it.

    Jeff - Resident Web Lackey and Moron
  • Hi there,

    My advice to you is, think of who you are trying to sell to. If you're trying to sell to 13 year olds, then try Princess's method and bulk up with graphics with fonts that are only legible if you're drunk.

    If you're targeting businesses, take a look at "business" web-sites. The use a little amount of graphics and they use them wisely. Some choose functionality and other choose to bulk up in content.

    There are HUGE differences between what businesses consider good, esp. if you're target business is selling wacky widgets compared to a business that is selling life insurance.

    In regards to your site, I agree with everyone else's opinions (except PrincessNerdy who has obviously never had someone PAY for one of her web sites), but I'd also like to add that you have a lot of wasted space.

    Considering the amount of content on your site (no offence), you've laid it out fairly well, but you need to focus more on adding more content.

    Your prices are a bit "amaturish". Real Web Designers charge per hour or per job, not per page. If you can honestly say $45 for a graphic created from scratch, then you've got another thing comming. The amount of changes your clients will ask for will make the whole thing a literal WASTE of time for you. Charge per hour, businesses respect that if they pay $10 for a site they're gonna get crap. If they pay $2000 they EXPECT what they want!

    HTH
    Bradley q:)
  • : : you have no valid points... be gone!
    : : Thanks, PrincessNerdy
    : :
    : :
    : "Princess"
    : You have an interesting perspective on the world. If I had to guess, I would say that:
    : 1> When you design a site, you design only for IE, because only a "moron" would use anything else.
    : 2> You make extensive use of graphics (obviously), because everyone with any brains has a broadband connection and anyone that doesn't isn't worth wasting time on (they're morons).
    : 3> You probably use the "This site best viewed with IE at 1024 x 768" message on your pages, because you expect everyone to adapt to the way you want to design the page, rather than adapt your page to the way people want to view it.
    :
    : Jeff - Resident Web Lackey and Moron
    :
    haha, not exactly
    1- I use ie aswell as others. but ie is the main one, obviously.
    2- Broadband is cheap these days. if you dont have it, you should. but for obvious reasons you should optimize your images.
    -* No i don't. That is utterly moronic. You should design a site to fit everyones monitor, not just yours.

    And yes, you got the last thing about yourself right, you seem like a moron... :)


    Thanks, PrincessNerdy

  • : : : : : : Why should he/she turn the load images off? that seem a little moronic if you ask me. These days everyone using a computer on the internet can view images. If they have their images disabled, than they are just morons aswell.
    : : : : :
    : : : : : Before you resort to name-calling, perhaps you should do some research on your "morons" :
    : : : : :
    : : : : : http://www.w3.org/WAI/
    : : : : : http://www.lighthouse.org/advocacy_access.htm
    : : : : : http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/about.jsp
    : : : : : http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
    : : : : :
    : : : : As we can see those sites suck.
    : : :
    : : : The w3.org membership list includes:
    : : : Microsoft, Sun, Apple, IBM, HP, AOL, AT&T, VeriSign, Cisco, Macromedia, and Autodesk.
    : : : ( Just to name a few. )
    : : : Apparently not everyone thinks their website sucks?
    : : : See the full list at:
    : : : http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List
    : : :
    : : That site for one isn't classified as a "site design"
    : :
    : : you have no valid points... be gone!
    : : Thanks, PrincessNerdy
    : :
    : :
    :
    : I think you're missing Jeff's point, the idea is that the internet should be accessible to _everybody_, including people who are visually impared/dissabled (or "morons" as you so eloquently put it ;-)). These people rely on programs that magnify text or analyse and read the page out loud. Well, most web-images don't magnify well and certainly won't be easy for programs to read out loud. You should at least supply ALT information with your images but the best thing is to use plain text to give the information. So that is why putting your text in images is a bad idea.
    :
    : Granted, visually impared people would have little use for a web-designer but it _is_ something a web-designer should be aware of.
    :
    : Also, Linux/Unix users running Lynx won't be to happy with the site either ;-)
    :
    We don't "design" websites for people using Unix.


    Thanks, PrincessNerdy

  • PrincessNerdy,

    Do you _really_ know what your talking about, JeffP has made some very good, valid points about making websites accesible to the widest range of users possible, and your making stupid half-witted comments about morons.

    Granted, most people do you use the same setup as you but there are that unfortunate few, so next time as Jeff put, "do some research"...

    Oooh, and if your interested im sitting in my Multimedia BSc class writing a report about Browser Compatibility and Internet Connections.

    Next please...
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