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healthy debate (Jonathan)
: Thought I'd stick my paddle in...or try...but few succeed against the Infidel of arguing... j/k
: Maybe it's because Christians believe that they can talk with God? Prayer in my eyes is a two way thing.
This is another problem I have with Christianity in general and why I seem to prefer buddhism. Instead of quieting, listening, and opening, many Christians seem to be asking, demanding, and petitioning. I don't believe that an omnipotent being could be swayed by the petitions of puny mortals. If GOD knows all, sees all, hears all, and does all, then asking Him to change the plan is an exercise in futility, or arrogance in some cases. I do realize that this isn't descriptive of even a majority of Christians but I have seen it a lot.
: I don't think God wants any of us to feel crap about ourselves, BTW.
This seems to be an odd remnant of the Puritans hanging around American religion.
: I don't really care for denominations within Christianity. It's the same God and bible etc whatever the case...
You can also say that the Christians and the Muslims have "the same God", but in reality they don't. It seems to me that much of Christianity, especially many of the Protestants, and Islam and even Buddhism (etc, etc, etc) is just Bible/Koran/Buddha worship. As "spiritual" as they all claim to be, most humans seem to need something tangible to latch on to and proclaim as the "one true" book/faith/prophet. It's rather interesting from an anthropological standpoint.
: Agree on this one. If there is a God who created us then I'd suggest that the entire way we live our lives would be an act of worship to God...
I don't like the word "worship", but otherwise I completely agree.
: OK, so what are you arguing here? It seems to me on one hand you're saying why would a supreme being give a darn about puny mortals, then you're saying that there is no logic in the idea of God not having compassion towards us. Or is this not what you meant?
See my response to walrus
: Why wouldn't God give us have emotions?
I didn't say He wouldn't, just that I don't believe He did. It's that whole creation/evolution bit that is ancillary to the current thread.
:: How can the eternal die?
: By rising to life after death?
See my response to walrus
: "God so LOVED the world [e.g. us] that He gave His one and only Son..."
This doesn't answer the question of why said Loving GOD would set things up in the first place where an innocent must die to pay for the guilty. Sounds very Pagan to me. That's another interesting thing to me, the overarching progression from pagan roots to monotheism. It's truly amazing how the god of one man and his family became regarded by so many as the one true GOD of the universe.