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GrindGrind Member Posts: 3
Hi.
I need to create a message board/forum and a mass mailer (for a company newsletter).
PERL seems like the obvious choice of language but I'd be interested in any opinions, suggestions.

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  • SouldrinkerSouldrinker Member Posts: 143
    Hmz... I guess if you're new to perl, you'd better begin trying to solve your problem with php... to program a fast script in perl is much harder than do so in php.

    Don't look at things like UBB, allthough it's written in perl there are many many boardsystems written in php that are better, more secure and faster.

    I would propose you to use MySQL as well, to store the data of the board, the newsletter I would handle with MySQL, too.

    best regards,

    sebastian mohrenstecher
    executive secretary
    net::allies

    www.net-allies.de
    info@net-allies.de

  • JonathanJonathan Member Posts: 2,914
    Hi,

    I'd recommend Perl and MySQL. Think about the database design carefully for the forum or look at how other systems do it - it'll depend if it's to be threaded (like this board) or linear (like http://forum.jwcs.net/). Call me rebellious, but I think Perl is a nicer language to work in than PHP.

    *awaits flames from PHP fans* ;-)

    Hope this helps some...

    Jonathan


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  • bgibbybgibby Member Posts: 251
    : Hi,
    :
    : I'd recommend Perl and MySQL. Think about the database design carefully for the forum or look at how other systems do it - it'll depend if it's to be threaded (like this board) or linear (like http://forum.jwcs.net/). Call me rebellious, but I think Perl is a nicer language to work in than PHP.
    :
    : *awaits flames from PHP fans* ;-)
    :
    : Hope this helps some...
    :
    : Jonathan
    :
    :
    : -------------------------------------------
    : Count your downloads:
    : http://www.downloadcounter.com/
    : And host your site:
    : http://www.incrahost.com/
    : Don't say I never give you anything... ;-)
    :
    :

    Hi there,

    Without fueling the fire, I believe Perl has a lot more to offer in the long run than PHP, especially in seperating the content from the code.

    Cya
    Bradley q:)
  • SouldrinkerSouldrinker Member Posts: 143
    hmmmmz - but php is much more easier to learn, and as he said he begins with that all, didn't he?... and I guess for beginners php is better than perl, because you can't use those special features in perl as beginner in this language.

    best regards,

    sebastian mohrenstecher
    executive secretary
    net::allies

    www.net-allies.de
    info@net-allies.de

  • bgibbybgibby Member Posts: 251
    : hmmmmz - but php is much more easier to learn, and as he said he begins with that all, didn't he?... and I guess for beginners php is better than perl, because you can't use those special features in perl as beginner in this language.
    :
    : best regards,
    :
    : sebastian mohrenstecher
    : executive secretary
    : net::allies
    :
    : www.net-allies.de
    : info@net-allies.de
    :
    :
    It's a matter of learning ability. Eventually he'll have to learn Perl if he wants to do anything complex. He either chooses to learn Perl and have a better understanding of the language or learn PHP where he'll end up having to learn Perl anyhow.

    Spend the time and learn properly and you'll be a better programmer for it!

    IMHO
    Bradley q:)
  • SouldrinkerSouldrinker Member Posts: 143
    woh woh woh - hold it, I don't think perl is the solution to every problem in web programming at all... I guess PHP is better for some solutions, but... no flames ;) both of them are great languages and I don't know where I would be without them :)
    best regards,

    sebastian mohrenstecher
    executive secretary
    net::allies

    www.net-allies.de
    info@net-allies.de

  • JonathanJonathan Member Posts: 2,914
    Hi,

    : woh woh woh - hold it, I don't think perl is the solution to every problem in web programming at all... I guess PHP is better for some solutions, but... no flames ;) both of them are great languages and I don't know where I would be without them :)

    Both languages have their place, as you say. I learnt Perl before PHP and I didn't find Perl hard to pick up at all. I use it as my language of preference, and there hasn't been anything that it hasn't been able to handle yet, whether it's a secure backend connection, database connectivity or any of another load of things. PHP I think has more built in stuff for web programming and is more specialised for web programming - if you write CGIs in Perl you may have to deal with some things that PHP wouold do for you, but this allows you to learn more about how things actually work.

    Also Perl has the added bonus that it can be used to write useful command line scripts, so you can use it for many things other than web programming. I've found knowing Perl invaluable for this reason.

    Anyway, each to their own. PHP did originally start as a set of tools for web programming in Perl anyway, so they aren't all that distant. :)
    The main thing that puts me off PHP is the way it places code within HTML and so on - I didn't like ASP for similiar reasons (though PHP is obviously better than ASP...hahahaaa).

    Anyway, that's my thoughts... As for fueling the fire, not sure if this is classed as sand or petrol... ;-)

    Best,

    Jonathan

    -------------------------------------------
    Count your downloads:
    http://www.downloadcounter.com/
    And host your site:
    http://www.incrahost.com/
    Don't say I never give you anything... ;-)

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